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Looks like I have antagonised quite a few people in the process. I guess this transcript would clarify the backburners.
(11:30:12) Ishwar: life sucks
(11:30:19) Sundar: y da?
(11:30:27) Ishwar: u cant express a plain opinion w/o ur friends mistaking u
(11:30:30) Sundar: I feel that its interesting
(11:30:48) Sundar: I dont think they took it too wrong
(11:31:22) Sundar: they now have a mix of mild contempt and sigh at ur posts
(11:33:08) Sundar: I haven't gotten any remark by them, ur clarification is visible from my my POV
(11:33:17) Ishwar: my point is this: i would have written the same thing had even maneka gandhi/gandhi himself did it.
(11:33:25) Sundar: dunno if it'll b obscured for them
(11:33:33) Sundar: ya I know
(11:33:36) Ishwar: i dont see why i shd react differently if it is u guys. thats all
(11:33:43) Ishwar: that wud be hypocrisy
(11:35:08) Sundar: (the only problem with us is that on the one hand we denounce the notion of virtue but on the other hand we say something (hypocrisy here) is bad, I am still not able to come to terms with this inconsistency)
(11:35:41) Ishwar: hmmm
(11:35:51) Ishwar: good point
(11:36:59) Sundar: (probably it is this: once we find the immediate cause of some phenomenon and see that people ascribe different purpose to that, we develop a stiffness towards that phenomenon itself)
(11:37:23) Ishwar: wrong
(11:37:46) Sundar: in my above comment read "ascribe different purpose or the fact thqat they ascribe a purpose to it at all)
(11:37:50) Ishwar: i dont deny _philanthropy_
(11:38:14) Ishwar: it is the society trying to balance itself or finding a new balance
(11:38:40) Sundar: 2 points...
(11:39:05) Sundar: 1. my comments were directed the more intersting subject of hypocrisy though it may apply here too
(11:39:05) Ishwar: and for that i understand that there shd be some hype or feleing of virtue surrrounding it
(11:39:24) Ishwar: otherwise, there is no incentive
(11:39:33) Sundar: ya
(11:39:37) Ishwar: just that i am not able to digest this fact
(11:39:39) Ishwar: simple
(11:39:44) Sundar: forgot the second point
(11:40:23) Ishwar: (11:39:05) Sundar: 1. my comments were directed the more intersting subject of hypocrisy though it may apply here too : I dont understand this
(11:40:46) Ishwar: ok, let me give an example
(11:40:57) Sundar: this was in response to ur msg "i dont deny _philanthropy_"
(11:41:13) Sundar: go ahead
(11:41:14) Ishwar: all of us know mutation is absolutely necessary for survival and adaption
(11:41:49) Sundar: I wud read that less teleologically as "mutation causes A and B"
(11:41:54) Ishwar: and we know that nature isnt doing us a favour by allowing/supporting mutation
(11:42:17) Ishwar: rather, nature's whole survial is based on that
(11:42:32) Ishwar: now, if i say mutation is a virtue, how would u react?
(11:42:48) Ishwar: i'd say it is bullshit.
(11:43:00) Ishwar: thats precisely what i say now
(11:43:00) Sundar: I wud say it is hypocrisy
(11:43:14) Ishwar: kindly explanation
(11:43:29) Sundar: -a way of cajoling ppl to do things that u don't want to-
(11:43:47) Ishwar: precisely
(11:44:09) Sundar: even when that (cajoling) may not really needed to be done for the other guy, he might be doing it for his own pleasure
(11:44:41) Ishwar: i differ in this aspect
(11:44:50) Ishwar: i mean, i dont think so
(11:45:06) Ishwar: btw, can i publish this conversation on my blog?
(11:45:22) Sundar: sure
(11:45:28) Ishwar: gracias
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the only problem with us is that on the one hand we denounce the notion of virtue but on the other hand we say something (hypocrisy here) is bad, I am still not able to come to terms with this inconsistency.
Nobody is "denouncing" and claiming a moral high ground. Idiots are being poked at to have fun and doing what they do is upto them.......
Hypocriscy is what sustains life, so careful mate!
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